Addressing both pro and con

May 27th, 2008

There are several main points that people are making in response to DeidaExposed. All of the responses will be posted for your review. Names have been omitted although we have emailed those who responded to ask if they will give permission to be identified.

The following is a summary addressing the main issues.

1. I should not be using David’s work based on his business associations.

2. Making alliances with the Seduction community is going to benefit them and everyone.

3. Appreciation that the truth has been brought to light.

Addressing #1:

I want to be very clear that The Way of the Superior Man in particular, is the main reference source that I use for my coaching and people who sign on for coaching do so because they are, to some extent, familiar with the work. I took his teacher training to become more familiar with the material and I use it in my public presentations and workshops. All of this was mandated in the promises made in the teacher training.

To use a conservative analogy, if you are a member of the Catholic Church and you find out the priests are fooling around, do you stop reading the bible?

I am not questioning the value of the work, but rather the integrity of David’s associations with the seduction community and his Net2Bed producer.

Below is a quote from one of the many encouraging messages that have been sent as a result of the expose.

“I wanted to thank you for continuing to use his teachings, which I agree have so much truth and relevance in our world today, but also for passionately and actively taking action to protect women and men in regards to the truth.”

Addressing #2:

There can be doubt that the bright-burning spiritual message of which David speaks about will bring light to the world of the Seduction community. But his participation with some of the most blatant seduction masters and the fact that he has withheld this from the public make his motives suspicious.

Furthermore, if you search the internet, you will find that there are seduction workshops with the leaders now describing themselves as Deida trained experts. THEY are using the material as part of the pick up and seduce training. There is no saying that they wouldn’t have done this at some point in their travels but David’s involvement with them as well as using a producer with websites such as Net2Bed and Erotic Mastery underscores the fact that he has now formed an alliance that simply cannot be denied.

Even if just one seduction-minded student enters a workshop that is about the sacred feminine/ sacred masculine, and he is there to practice his stage 1 skills, what woman doesn’t have a right to know that?

For my part, I can no longer recommend this work to my clients. Instead of beating around the bush when they ask about doing a workshop, I chose to create DeidaExposed to explain why I have come to this conclusion. To have to go through all the details would be unmanageable. Thus DeidaExposed makes it clear and also serves as a warning to the unsuspecting participants.

Several responses have suggested that this is a waste of time. If that’s the case, then are we to say nothing about corruption, lies and deceit anywhere?

For sure Deida’s Net2Bed and Erotic Mastery producer is now emailing his PUA list promoting Deida’s work with loftier messages of masculine understanding, but he still sent out plenty of emails that had the tone of luring men into the Deida workshop for the purpose of finding “hot babes.” Easy for men to stick up for the rehabilitation of the seduction community, but put yourself in a woman’s place, especially if you don’t think of yourself as a “hot guy.”

One final note, among other details I received from friends, clients and colleagues who attend David’s workshops and intensives, there is always a significant imbalance of men and women. For some exercises, women have to work with women, and one has to take the masculine role. All the women I’ve heard from have expressed their displeasure with this. Just because the PUA community is all male doesn’t mean they should be a target audience for marketing.  

Addressing #3:

Clearly the responses that agree with the site are mostly from women but there are a few from men. Perhaps take note of the writing style of these people, then take note of the style of those who see it otherwise.

Deida Workshops - “Remarkable, yet very dangerous”

May 27th, 2008

To: “Michael Jascz” <response@deidaexposed.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:14 AM
Subject: Seattle

Hello Michael,

It was, for me, a remarkable weekend. I have nothing to compare and so I don’t know if the activities were less edgy than usual, or if his comments about the men in the audience who were “just there to get laid” were in relationship to the fact that there were men there from PUA, etc, but there was a tremendous amount of opening in the room, and his answers were profound and purposeful.

I attended on the strong recommendation of a good friend who briefly met you at Omega. I had a little idea of what to expect because of his description, and some of what actually happened was different than my expectations. I was under the impression that there was to be no socializing with the opposite sex, no discussions with the men during the breaks or going out for drinks. Those rules were never given and the group did indeed socialize together quite a bit.

Personally, I chose not to join in as I did not want to “muddy” the information. Although I am single and ready for my beloved to show up, I did not want to use this workshop as a shopping place. I have far too much understanding of workshop ecstasy experiences and how they cloud our perception, discernment and experience to mix it up with finding a love at the same time. Very dangerous. I do wish he had spent more time on that fact, and cautioned us all in why workshop relationships can be unstable. We were told to be gentle with one another, but I watched as that was interpreted in many different ways.

As for David’s new alignment with PUA, etc - My career is such that I work with all sorts of very big-name spiritual authors and teachers, some of them I work very closely with and know personally and what I have found is that none of them are fully integrated in the wisdoms they teach. They are all in their own learning process and are often times in direct conflict with their own teachings. I initially found this horribly disconcerting, and now, I don’t know if I have just become jaded or if there is truth in the idea that it is the message and not the messenger that has the power. I do not hold any of these teachers as gurus, I take all the wisdoms that come my way and sift them together and do my best to integrate them into my own life. I am also a coach and have dedicated my life to helping others do the same.

And in response to the lack of follow up, that is a greatly missing piece for sure. If he thinks that one simple weekend can really cause any profound change for someone who does not have a regular practice or spiritual path, he is mistaken. And I am grateful that I have a strong, conscious, open and available group of friends who embraced me back home and have allowed me space and place to share and process my open heart - I am profoundly open.

In love,

[Name pending permission, female]

Concerned and/or in agreement

May 27th, 2008

Email Responses:

Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 8:09 AM
Subject: Thanks and well wishes

Dear Michael

I wanted to email you to express my deep sadness at the news that I received from Deida central, about the choices that David has made in his professional and ethical life.

I wanted to thank you for continuing to use his teachings, which I agree have so much truth and relevance in our world today, but also for passionately and actively taking action to protect women and men in regards to the truth.

I feel like someone has died almost (does that make sense), in that I looked up to David and his teachings so much. I am so grateful that you are out there working in an ‘above-board’ way, to continue to spread the beauty and power of David’s teachings, in a positive and safe way.

I first discovered David’s work in 2003 and it is a part of my life and heart now.

May you continue in your work with success, happiness and security.

[Name pending permission, female]

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Dissenting comments from blog and emails

May 27th, 2008

Comments from blog:

E-mail : tessarax@yahoo.com

This attempt to “expose” David Deida is ridiculous and twisted. I’ve been to several of Deida’s intensives, and the container is always safe. I have nothing but the greatest respect for Deida’s moral standards. We should all aspire to that level of integrity. Many people go through huge change in the wake of workshops with Deida. It’s hard and there’s pain involved, but the rewards are massive. I owe the complete turnaround of my life to David Deida’s willingness to give his gifts.

This whole “scandal” seems to be more a case of the PUA community trying to associate themselves with Deida than the other way around. This website is light on facts and heavy on accusations from someone who is no longer even a part of the Deida community.

I hope Deida does many more things in association with the PUA community. His mere presence there could make major changes for the better in the hearts of men all over the world. I wish him luck and I would support him to the death.

Finally, as a woman, I’d like to say that some idiot with a pick-up line could not possibly threaten me, especially with the heart skills I’ve gained through work with Deida. Michael Jascz is insulting feminine intelligence. It’s easy even for an inexperienced woman to discern the depth and openness of a man’s heart.

You should be ashamed of yourself for maligning one of the best people to walk the earth in our times. It is an honor even to be in the same room with David Deida.

Tessa X

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You have the right to know!

May 15th, 2008

www.DeidaExposed.com

Gurus and teachers have been falling through the cracks of greed and/or sexual misconduct for as long as there has been wisdom teachings.

While we like to think of inspirational teachers as having achieved a level of moral and spiritual development, that is not always the case. This expose is not a new one. There is no room in the work of David Deida for associations with the Seduction Community. It puts women in harm’s way and compromises the integrity of all who attend any workshops.

Please forward www.DeidaExposed.com to others and to bring awareness to others of this violation of public trust.

Feel free to post your thoughts and comments on this matter on this blog.